Post #367092

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#367092

2019-11-11 22:38

Завтра и послезавтра будет опробована система гандикапа на следующих турнирах:
https://en.grandgames.net/tournaments/1826
https://en.grandgames.net/tournaments/1829
https://en.grandgames.net/tournaments/1830
Если это новшество понравится игрокам, примерно 20-50% всех турниров будет проводится с гандикапом. Предполагаю, что должен повысится интерес как у сильных игроков, так как занять призовое первое станет сложнее, так и у слабых, ведь возможность занять хорошее место существенно возрастет.
Как будет на самом деле, покажет практика.

Работает это следующим образом, при старте турнира, участники сортируются по рейтингу в порядке убывания. Каждом следующему игроку дается фора на 2 очка больше, чем предыдущему. Т.е. например, если в турнире 6 игроков, то самый слабый получит фору - 10 очков, самый сильный - 0, второй по силе - 2 и т.д.

#новостисайта #турниры

anikina 2019-11-11 22:43

An interesting innovation. So the last can be first! ignat

Everything is topsy turvy

olenenok

2019-11-11 22:50

Super!

Ioanna 2019-11-11 23:01

Play. Weekly tournaments will also be given a head start? podmig

mikl

2019-11-11 23:01

Tomorrow at 10.00 am will see what happens.
I Think it will be unpredictable, and hence interesting.

mikl

2019-11-11 23:06

Important question: points earned as a handicap will count for the achievement?
logically it shouldn't be.

Tane4ka

2019-11-11 23:42

Interestingly, of course, but I think in such a small tournament, with 5 stages, 10 points too much... Especially in the morning - little man is usually the first tournament is waking up, mostly 4-6 people. But it may be weak just catch up?

mikl

2019-11-11 23:58

"How will actually, will practice"

Tverianka

2019-11-12 00:34

I think that this will discourage the desire to participate in tournaments, stronger players. and how is the rating?
eg. not always in form - but not in a bad mood or problems with comp??? I know which tournaments I am more strong, and in any loser. what??? how do you determine my level.
support Tane4ka about this morning's events.

Tane4ka

2019-11-12 01:39

If you are involved in a large number of tournaments, the degree of error will be quite low and some players do both legs - right and their is no knock from the first place acute

:ignat
But I still do not understand too how it is calculated - for example, in the tag where I play... mmarco saying ignat: weak, I have a base rating, and Shine the light where my results are not so stable, but quite often in the first half of the table and in the annual tournament until the 4th, but the rating was below the benchmark... what

Lena2020 2019-11-12 06:58

I play very unstable, sometimes not even bad, three medals even work, to be turned out

But I don't want to give me a head start, to be honest, I can't, so can't be the last, why am I playing poorly, should be the first or in the first rows? Why do I need it? In order to stand on the first steps? Let's see

Well, looking for new opportunities and trying to improve the game, thank you for your efforts!

LenaNSolon 2019-11-12 07:51

In each puzzle the player your rating? And how can we find out before the tournament?

Support 2019-11-12 08:19

To each his own. The rating is recalculated at the end of each tournament (in comparison to points you and the other players). The current rating can be seen in the last-played tournament for each puzzle. Later I will make a separate table on the players page.

Support 2019-11-12 08:31

On the calculation of the Elo.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3_%D0%AD%D0%BB%D0%BE#%D0%92%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B0_%D0%AD%D0%BB%D0%BE
the Victory of one player over the other we considered is the set the most points at the end of the tournament.

Lena2020 2019-11-12 09:10

:ignat

NATAKAPA

2019-11-12 09:18

We have to see in practice. dance

Tverianka

2019-11-12 12:37

And if you do not do," egalitarianism" selecting points from the strong giving and the weak? And try to do tournaments by type дроп1 weak, дроп2 medium, etc. medium - low most of the players, and who wants to try their hand at drop 3 and above - a flag in his hand, honor and respect.
But if the strongest and fastest will want to relax in the easy tournament and then use a head start.
do you Like this idea?

Support 2019-11-12 14:14

If played in General 10 times more than now, it would be possible to spend a lot more tournaments and division level players.
Separately for masters, separately, for the fans. While it is impossible.

olenenok

2019-11-12 14:49

In practice, for light tasks it's just who clicks the mouse faster when different tasks, then at least there is a chance for those who do not fast clicks faster to solve (for example Mahjong games this is now the most significant tournament in this)

Tane4ka

2019-11-12 15:10

I have just with the mouse is the problem - no time for me to run ignat

Tverianka

2019-11-12 18:24

I like the Baba Yaga, I'm against it, against egalitarianism.
I don't know egalitarianism in any case causes food allergies.

bear08

2019-11-12 22:36

It seems to me that this is how to give money to a beggar, only more discouraged. Weak players who won 1-2 tournaments will not learn anything. Separately to do tournaments for the weak\strong is a good idea. But who will control it? Anyone want to earn in weak tournaments, and will be "the innocents".

richik

2019-11-13 05:53

And how to divide into weak and strong?
And if you're in the middle? Because many hang out somewhere in the middle, while not taking first place and even close to them not approaching, but below 5-th place, without coming down for example

Lena2020 2019-11-13 06:35

Many now aim to score in the tournament 15 points for the Achievements, I have a way, too, and that's the goal more real and more fun for many than the goal to be the first, let the leaders be leaders for other more realistic goals and less price for the input, if possible , and participants will be more, I think. Let there be tournaments and with form and without for a change

Support 2019-11-13 09:49

Tverianka, is not egalitarianism, a handicap is a handicap. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фора

SPOILER

a Weak player gets the opportunity to play with the hope of winning, and strong — an opportunity to demonstrate their abilities fully, neutralizing the advantage of the enemy obtained through the odds.

EEE1961

2020-01-13 10:55

In tournaments, started to play recently, not a worker in these matters, but why would I handicap - I don't know. Scored his points and really look at your successes, there is room for improvement. I believe that we should not wait for manna from heaven, it is necessary to go forward .

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